“We no longer controlled anything”: at trial of November 13, outspokenness of Marc Trévidic

The former anti -terrorist judge came to tell on Tuesday the rise in the jihadist threat and the submersion of the intelligence services which he witnessed until 2015.

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We will not remember the depositions of all the “major witnesses” – President of the Republic, Minister of the Interior, Sociologists or Journalists – who came to the trial of the attacks of November 13, but we will remember that of Marc Trévidic. The 56-year-old magistrate, former figure in anti-terrorism in France, appeared before the Assize Court specially composed of Paris, Tuesday May 3, to tell, for four hours and with a widely appreciated outspokenness, the Rise of the jihadist threat and the submersion of the intelligence services which he witnessed until 2015.

Marc Trévidic knew “the golden age” of anti -terrorism, in the early 2000s, upon his arrival at the Paris anti -terrorist prosecution. At the time, the lands of Djihad were Afghanistan or Bosnia; It is already necessary to manage returns in France, but the means are adapted to the threat: “When someone returned, intelligence monitored him for a year and did not let go. We were monitoring one hundred people at the same time.”

When he became anti -terrorist investigating judge in 2006, after three years far from this matter, things have changed. He discovered a “new generation, the fruit of a media jihad”. The Goutes-Chaumont, Montpellier, Artigat, young “fascinated by September 11” sectors and marked by the images of Guantanamo and Abou Ghraib, who “mounted your heads in front of videos”.

The pot of jihadism is slowly boiling, but the judicial numbers decrease. Marc Trévidic recounts the blindness: “How many times I have heard:” There has been no attack on our soil since December 3, 1996 [at RER Port-Royal] “?” Despite the More departures, the growing number of French people killed abroad and the clear signs that the country is in the crosshairs because of its presence in Afghanistan or the debate on the veil, “we continue to think that we are invulnerable” .

“We have already lost”

“And then there is Mohammed Merah.” Seven dead in Toulouse and Montauban, in March 2012. The presidential election is approaching, we put the dust under the carpet: Bernard Squarcini, intelligence boss, evokes a “lone wolf “, broadcasting the idea that security remains guaranteed. Marc Trévidic knows not. “On the listening, I heard the reactions to what Merah had done. I did not think that a human being could rejoice in a shot in the head of a little girl.” He sighs. “There, I said to myself: that’s it, we are on another planet.” He remembers the words that a colleague slips: “We have already lost.”

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